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My children and I have been spending quite a bit of time at the pool recently.

My 11 year old daughter, who is...ahem...quite developed for her age, shall we say, has been getting a lot of attention. 

Not from kids her own age.

Not even from kids who are 1 or 2 years older than her.

From 18+ year olds.

She's pretty good about standing up for herself, and most of the time will handle herself and the situation alone.

There have been occasions, and these occasions are becoming more and more frequent, where momma has to step in.

When I say situations, let me explain what I'm talking about:  overt comments of a sexual nature, such as asking her what her bra size is, telling her she has a "nice booty", if she dates, if she's kissed anyone....comments that are totally inappropriate.

My usual stance is to ask the kids to please leave her alone.  If they don't, my next reaction is to explain  what Shea's dad does, and to ask if they really want their folks to get a call from Security Forces asking why they were coming on to an 11 year old girl.  That usually works.

Shea has complained once that some guy 'accidentally' brushed her butt whilst she was in the water.  This was a guy that had made a couple of comments to her earlier.  I asked her to show me where he was, but when we went and looked we couldn't find him.  Lucky him.  She said she'd recognize him if she saw him again, so every time we go now we're on the lookout.  If and when we see him, I'll give him the 'I'm sure it was an accident, but if it happens again" brief..and if it does happen again, I'll have no qualms getting law enforcement involved.  None.  I'll also have no qualms about 'accidentally' grabbing his nuts and twisting them a full 360 degrees until he gets the message that he doesn't speak to, come on to, touch, look at or think about my 11 year old child in any way, shape or form. I'll also have no qualms about letting his folks know that they have a wanna-be pedophile living under their roof.  Do you think he'll get the message?

My daughter is a little girl.  She may have an adult-esque body, but she doesn't have the maturity to back that up.  She shouldn't have to deal with comments like that.  She's not going to HAVE to deal woth situations like that.

Mommas going to start taking names and kicking ass......

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on Jul 12, 2004
Ah, you go kick some butt.

Some girls are just hard to tell what age they are. And you have every right to be protective of her. My naive nature wants me to believe that these guys really do have no idea that she's 11. But I have a hard time beleiving they don't know she's under 18, at least. That should be enough of a deterant, but I guess some guys still think they can get away with it.

You know whats the bad though? Go into a store and see 13ish-year old girls wearing things that "show off their assets". I don't know how parents let them out of the house. And even worse than that, is when a girl like that is being accompanied by her mom who is dressed up just as bad. I just shake my head and say to myself, "I wonder where she gets it from." If I was a dad of a girl and saw her dressed like that, I would immediately go through her closet and drawers and start throwing stuff away. And gawd forbid if mommy bought that stuff for her. Because the simple and sad fact is that when an attractive maturing girl dresses like that, its not just 13 year old boys that are going to be looking. And there are plenty of creeps out there that don't care if a girl is underaged or not.

And a little off-topic, I remember hearing on the news that research was done that said the plastic bottles that all water and soft-drinks are bottled in have a chemical inside of them that appears to boost the rate at which girls develop. Of course I only heard that once, so it may have been later found untrue, but it sticks in my mind everytime I see stuff like this.
on Jul 12, 2004

I looked older than I was when I was a teen.  I remember having these two 30ish guys trying to pick up my sister and I (I was 16 and she was 18).  I told them that I was only 16 and they wouldn't believe me.  I mean, these guys were at least 14 years older than me.  It was nasty.

Even if she looks old for her age, I doubt that she looks "legal" so they are being perverts even if they "think" that she is older.

I think I can wait for my daughter to get older

on Jul 12, 2004
As a 22yr old guy who lives in a University town, I can personally attest to how damn hard it's becoming to tell the legal girls from the illegal ones. Summer here is particularly hard because you have mostly incoming freshmen (17 and 18yr olds) running around in almost nothing... and then there are all the summer camps that get hosted here (academic and sports) with 14-16yr olds running around in almost nothing. Some are easy to spot, but most aren't. It's to the point now where I have to ask a girl's age if she's acting at all flirty, it's just a risk I can't take. Too bad I'm one of the few around here who takes the matter seriously... I've seen obviously underaged girls getting into frat parties and bars around here many many times, always clinging to the arm of some guy who is obviously several years their senior.

It's getting to the point where you have to ask for ID from any girl who flirts with you, because you can't tell just by looking at most of them.
on Jul 12, 2004
By all means kick ass. Can't be too careful nowadays.
on Jul 12, 2004
If you don't kick their ass' I'll do it for you! Stand your ground.

I'm really not looking forward to Alysia growing up... But I swear, If she ever wears some trashy out fit, I will take it off of her and burn it.

Shawn
on Jul 12, 2004
Well, I suppose it's possible that they don't know how old she is/isn't, but I can't imagine that she comes close to looking like an adult when she's 11.....so tell 'em once, and then all bets are off. I LOVE the description of what you're going to do to the "poor boy"....he won't be apt to forget again, will he?
on Jul 12, 2004
Sorry if it looked like I was defending these guys... I'm not. They get ONE warning, and after that, I fully support negative reenforcement through the use of scisors...
on Jul 12, 2004

Rhino...when we were shopping for bathing suits for Shea this year I had a hack of a time because she kept rejecting ones that didn't "cover enough".  She's somewhat prudish (hooray!!!!)...hopefully she'll syaty that way for a while!

Zoomba _ I didn;t think you were defending them at all.  You're right, the way some girls flirt you really do have to ask for ID.  I, like I said, give one warning.  A warning which includes my asking them if they know how old she is. 

If they hit on her AFTER they know she's 11.........well, then they deserve everything they get.  And they will get it.  Hell hath no fury like Karen after some pervert has tried to pick up her child.....

..and man, I'd hate to see the consequences should this happen after Dave gets home!  Some poor kid's going to end up bald and ball-less!

on Jul 12, 2004
Poetmom, I don't think those guys will be apt to do anything after momma gets done with 'em!

I'm still under 18 so this conversation is kind of moot to me, but go kick some names and take some ass!
on Jul 12, 2004
This is the very reason I dont want to have a daughter... too many sickos... Mummy and Daddy cannot watch all the time!

It's just so terrible to think about... Although, I am sure any daughter of yours would be able to handle herself pretty quickly... maybe not at the moment, but I am positive she will develop the necessary techniques soon enough.

BAM!!!
on Jul 12, 2004

maybe not at the moment, but I am positive she will develop the necessary techniques soon enough.


I shall take that as the compliment I'm sure you intended it to be, Muggaz!


She's learning well, and learning quickly.  It's sad that she HAS to learn. 


Personally, I blame it all on B Spears and C Agulera. 

on Jul 12, 2004
Man, I'm glad I have two boys.

-- B
on Jul 12, 2004

If they hit on her AFTER they know she's 11.........well, then they deserve everything they get


You couldn't be more right about that!  Jail bate mean anything to these guys?  It sure as hell should!  Also, I have the same sentiment as Mr Frog


At 12 yrs old I was 5'7" and a C cup.  Quite popular with older guys and truly had no idea why.  These young girls truly need others looking out for them.  Man, if I could only have the body I had then coupled with the knowledge I have now!"

on Jul 12, 2004

Man, I'm glad I have two boys.


Yeah, I have 2 of those as well.  They're very protective of their sister.  I can see there being quite a few confrontations regarding Shea and boys in the future. 


Boys, however, have their own issues.  My Davey has just started to like to shower and smell good....I think the little girl up the street has taken an interest.  Hopefully he'll see all these jackasses that Shea's having to deal with and lean how NOT to treat girls.


At 12 yrs old I was 5'7" and a C cup.  Quite popular with older guys and truly had no idea why. 


Shea is 5'1" and is almost a B cup now.  The sad thing is she's now figured out WHY she's popular with guys and isn't very happy about it. 

on Jul 12, 2004
"My usual stance is to ask the kids to please leave her alone. If they don't, my next reaction is to explain what Shea's dad does, and to ask if they really want their folks to get a call from Security Forces asking why they were coming on to an 11 year old girl. That usually works."

pwned.

"I'll also have no qualms about 'accidentally' grabbing his nuts and twisting them a full 360 degrees until he gets the message that he doesn't speak to, come on to, touch, look at or think about my 11 year old child in any way, shape or form"

Dharma, that hurt just reading it. But those perverts would deserve it! Freakin' weirdos...

And how do you get your wrist to go 360 degrees? I bet its some kind of awesome Mom skill you acquire.
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