I just wanted to say...

Published on July 3, 2004 By dharmagrl In Blogging

....that there are people here who kick ass.

Who aren't afraid to be totally honest about themselves or their circumstances.

Who have no pretentions, or who put on airs-and-graces.

Who are able to see through the BS and cut to the truth.

Those are the people who make me want to keep blogging.

Then again.....

There are people here who will claim to be anything that fits their particular argument at the time.

Who refuse to provide any factual information to back up their claims whatsoever.

Who have come very close to being exposed in the web of deception they have created for themsleves.

Who refuse, time and again, to admit when they are mistaken, despite being factually proven to be wrong.

These are the people who make me want to stop blogging. To throw in the towel, to say 'to hell with it all'.

There, I said it.

Comments (Page 3)

dharmagrl

on Jul 03, 2004

I know she is talking about someone within the community... I dont care who she is talking about...

Actually, I'm talking about more than one person. There are a few people who fit the criteria.

Muggaz

on Jul 03, 2004

here is your own bitching article...

I stand by it 100%

If you cant acknowledge the differing situations, I am not going to bother trying to explain it to you.

As for you Muggaz, well, I could give a rat's ass what you find acceptable or not.

Awesome... other people who read this blog might though...

BAM!!!

dharmagrl

on Jul 03, 2004

....that there are people here who kick ass.

Who aren't afraid to be totally honest about themselves or their circumstances.

Who have no pretentions, or who put on airs-and-graces.

Who are able to see through the BS and cut to the truth.

Those are the people who make me want to keep blogging.

Did you perhaps not read that part of the article? Or are you ignoring it because it doesn't further your argument any?

dharmagrl

on Jul 03, 2004

Awesome... other people who read this blog might though...

And the people who I give a rat's ass about understand where I'm coming from.

greywar

on Jul 03, 2004

If you cant acknowledge the differing situations, I am not going to bother trying to explain it to you.

yes in your case you were whinging on about how unfair it was to lose points due to moderation... a *very* serious article... massive differences indeed.

Gideon MacLeish

on Jul 03, 2004

For the first time today, i actually found myself typing IN CAPS at someone and really wishing i could just reach through the screen and choke the shit out of them.

I didn't mean to evoke that response from you, LW

(j/k, LW....ya knows I loves ya.)

greywar

on Jul 03, 2004

My apologies to both Dharma for hijacking her thread and to Muggaz for me being overly critical of his writing. I think this is a great example of someone lowering the overall tone fo the site. I just wish it was not me who was illustrating it in such a clear manner.

Muggaz

on Jul 03, 2004

Did you perhaps not read that part of the article? Or are you ignoring it because it doesn't further your argument any?

Of course I read it Dharma

It doesn't fit in with my argument though.... I am more than happy for people to post articles of praise on other members of our community... if you want me to congratulate you on that part of the blog, then well done...

yes in your case you were whinging on about how unfair it was to lose points due to moderation... a *very* serious article... massive differences indeed.

- looks like that article was a waste of time... i didn't lose ponts because if moderation, i lost them because my opinions weren't in line with the people that trolled me... simple as that...

This isn't about me though Greywar...

BAM!!!

dharmagrl

on Jul 03, 2004

Don't apologize to me Greywar. You weren't the one who hi-jacked the thread.

Errrmm....you didn't mean it was I who was lowering the tone of the site, did you?

stevendedalus

on Jul 03, 2004

Whatever happened to the noble thought that though there is disagreement, there is respect for the opposing view? If Dharma is speaking to stalking commentators that pick on a particular blogger for the mere thrill, then I agree with her.

Gene Nash

on Jul 03, 2004

there is respect for the opposing view?

What, Steven? Like saying "you're not a blogger you're a flogger?" Yeah, that was real respectful. Nothing like the constructive criticism of "how do you live with your own nightmares?" Yep, you have the corner on respect, Steven. Portrait of the blogger as an insult comic, maybe?

Sorry to hijack your thread for a moment there, Dharma -- That was a long time coming. I hate it when people who hurl insults (especially on their first contact with a blogger) try to make pious statements about respect, peace, and harmony.

bakerstreet

on Jul 04, 2004

Muggaz, pal...

Props for the gatecrashing ability, but I dunno why you are feeling the need to here.

There's a serious amount of angst floating around lately. Threads like this that would have once passed unseen or uneventfully are now like blank canvases to take a dump on.

A little less fiber, maybe?

Muggaz

on Jul 04, 2004

Props for the gatecrashing ability, but I dunno why you are feeling the need to here.

I didn't mean to gatecrash....

I was merely stating my opinion in this partiucular article... no hijacking was done...

If my opinion on everything is classed as gatecrashing, please everyone freaken blacklist me from your sites... My commentary is clearly not welcomed, however, because they are public forums, I will always excercise my right to critisize if i see fit..

This just happens to be one of the many occasions that I go against the common trend, and because of this, I am singled out as a trouble maker... What are the use of public forums if my right to criticise Darma's attitude is always turned back in my face?

I am not sorry that I have said anything, I firmly beleive in everything I have said... with just cause as well... Just the same as Dharma beleives in everything she said... If i were to write my own blog about anti-bitching, I would be 'playing the victim' as you guys so eloquently typecast me...

Just as i have my right to crtiticise Darma's attitude, you all have the right to criticise mine... I just dont think that attitudes presented in this thread are healthy for the JU community...

It's almost enough for me to keep to myself and not post any comments anywhere... but how boring would that make this place huh?

Alternatively, if you dont want any crtiticism at all, dont allow comments... people have to realise not everyone is going to agree with their statements and opinions... If you cant handle the criticism... dont allow it.

BAM!!!

Gene Nash

on Jul 04, 2004

Alternatively, if you dont want any crtiticism at all, dont allow comments... people have to realise not everyone is going to agree with their statements and opinions... If you cant handle the criticism... dont allow it.

Criticism is one thing; outright abuse of the author, another. Some people around here don't just criticize an element of a piece, they savage the author, their abilities, and their worth as an individual. I'm tired of accusations being hurled at individuals for simply speaking sincerely from their own hearts.

If criticism is so acceptable, Muggaz, then why not respect Dharma's ability to criticize the site? She offered as much praise as criticism. She was expressing that there are those who demean her as an individual, spoil the experience, and make her feel so bad she'd sometimes rather dump it altogether. Big time. That's a valid expression of her experience on this site (and mine as well).

Isn't your ire better expressed at those who demean your fellow bloggers? Those that demean their integrity, motives, worth, and make some of us feel like we don't belong or aren't worthy to be here? Those are the individuals ruining the community. Those are the individuals deserving of ire, rather than doubling the abuse upon the poor individual who dares speak out against it.

dharmagrl

on Jul 04, 2004

OK...I neither want nor expect praise for each article I write. Sometimes I expect and welcome criticism because it makes me think differently. I still may think that my train of thought is the best one, but I at least get an opportunity to understand where the other side is coming from. To criticize me as a person though, and to follow me from thread to thread having a go at me - that's not acceptable, and that's what's been happening.

This article was my venting about that. I refuse to write articles naming names because I don't think that's fair. This site is incredibly popular, and I would hate for a newcomer to see my article about "so-and-so is a total idiot who can't argue a point to save their life"...much less have that article googled. So I keep my rantings nameless. If we were in the same room, would I name names? You betcha. But not here.

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