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I've been following with interest the furor of reports surrounding the fate of Lynndie England, the female Army Reservist pictures absuing and torturing Iraqi POW's.

It made me wonder how this small-town girl from West Virginia came to such notoriety.  What series of unfortunate events led her to be pictured grinning like a loon, cigarette hanging from her slack-jawed mouth, pointing to the genitals of a naked, hooded man?  How did she come to have her photo taken dragging another naked Iraqi around by a leash? 

I think that a general lack of common sense coupled with a lack of appropriate supervison and poor leadership all contributed to Lynndie's downfall. First of all, she isn't an MP.  She was 'attached' to the 372nd Military Police Company, but her actual training is reportedly as a personnel clerk.  She was just a warm body filling a spot. Secondly, there was an obvious lack of supervision and leadership at that facility.  The mere fact that she's pregnant by one of her superiors speaks volumes. And how did she, a female, come to be allowed into that kind of circumstance in a male facility anyway?  According to the former NCO In Charge of our local military confinement facility, while female officers are permitted to work with male inmates, common sense dictates and military procedure forbids that they put themselves in certain circumstances around male prisoners....because of the risk of both impropriety and the female officer's safety. The fact that a number of the personnel there are both pictured and implicated again, speaks volumes to the quality of the leadership. Thirdly, there was a lack of training and equipment.  SSgt Chip Frederick, another of the people charged, states that they didn't even have a copy of the Geneva Convention's rules regarding the proper treatment of prisoners.

So, we have a veritable litany of errors to fall back on...or do we?  The bottom line is this: no-one coerced Lynndie into behaving that way. No-one put a gun to her head and made her do it.  She did it, she should take responsibility for her actions.  Yes, there were somewhat extenuating circumstances...but there is no excuse for the scenarios depicted in those photgraphs. None.

Lynndie dug her own grave when she posed for those pictures.  And with Rumsfeld taking the heat for her actions, you can be sure it will be a deep, dark one.

 

 


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on May 10, 2004

I got 2 from you...I'll keep looking for another one!

The pictures I have links to are the ones that have already been seen in the news.  There are more; whether they'll be released or not remains to be seen.  Some of them are apparently too graphic, involving corpses, simulated rape and other nasties.

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/US/South/05/07/soldier.charged/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4928006/

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/tm_objectid=14195963&method=full&siteid=50143&headline=outrage-at-american-torture-of-iraqi-prisoners-name_page.html

These have some pics..the ones that have already been seen, though.

on May 10, 2004
wow thats disturbing stuff..................
on May 10, 2004

Had you not seen them before, Marc?

It IS disturbing, you're right.

on May 10, 2004

In case anyone is curious, here's what the UCMJ (Uniformed Code of Military Justice) says:

http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/mcm/bl93.htm

There are a couple of other articles that I think will probably be used against her too, but this is the start.

on May 10, 2004


Whos custody would I rather be in? Tough choice.
The worst behavior of ours doesn’t even scratch the surface of theirs.
on May 11, 2004

Yeah, but we're supposed to be the 'civilised' nation here, Anthony.  Not a bunch of religious radicals martyring themselves (although reading some of the posts on this forum you'd never know that - Marvin, take note) and killing the infidel so they can be assured a place in paradise.

on May 11, 2004

The worst behavior of ours doesn’t even scratch the surface of theirs


No, I think murder is murder any way you slice it....nice try though.

on May 11, 2004

Basically, any behaviour such as this is unacceptable, which is why there are agreements such as the Geneva Convention in place. It doesn't matter who the perpetrator is, it's wrong, and that's the bottom line.


Two wrongs do not make a right.

on May 11, 2004
I didn’t see sensationalized public outcry when Danny pearl was brutally tortured and killed in captivity. Where outrage was over Jessica lynches brutal abuse at the hands of her captors? What happened to the rights of the Italian hostage who got his throat slit in the custody of terrorists? Perhaps the tape of the Italian mans murder would have inspired outrage if Al Jazeera showed it, but they decided not to because the Italian died bravely, effectively destroying their ability to make propaganda.

Was the abuse wrong? Sure, the abuse was wrong. The story at the end of the day is that some soldiers abused prisoners. This story has become over sensationalized by people with an anti Bush anti Iraq war agenda.
on May 11, 2004
No, I think murder is murder any way you slice it....nice try though.


Which custody would you choose? There is only one logical answer.
on May 11, 2004
"Miki is anti-american and relishes the idea to laugh and make fun of any wrongdoings and mistake the nation (and it's force) can muster."
actually you're not entirely correct. I'm not anti-American I just simply point out facts of abuse by the Americans on others throughout it's history. Like I say, if the US didn't go and kill babies, mikimouse wouldn't be telling you guys that your country killes babies. If the US would have been nice enough not to poison Vietnam with Agent Orange and Iraq with Depleted Uranium, I wouldn't be bothering to tell you all how your country poisons the planet with impunity. Simple. If you want me to shut up ask your leaders to stop killing innocent babies. Would you do that for me?
on May 11, 2004

actually you're not entirely correct. I'm not anti-American I just simply point out facts of abuse by the Americans on others throughout it's history.


So, what was said..." relishes the idea to laugh and make fun of any wrongdoings and mistake the nation (and it's force) can muster"..well, that IS correct, n'est pas? 

on May 11, 2004
no i hadnt seen them before
on May 11, 2004
i dont watch much tv.........
on May 11, 2004

Well, you've seen them now. Perhaps in the coming days you'll also have the opportunity to see the beheading of Nick Berg and be as disturbed by that as you were by the photos of the POW abuse.


Do I sound mad?  I am.  I'm outraged.

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