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Published on August 25, 2006 By dharmagrl In Internet

I have an almost-14-year old daughter who has discovered the joys of blogging and the internet. 

As a parent, I feel it's my responsibility to somehow manage to prepare my children for the uneven playing field that is life but at the same time not blow their innocence away too soon.  It's hard, especially when you have a child who thinks they're worldy and society-savvy and wants to stake their claim for a little independence.  I want my daughter to know that I trust her, but to also know that I'm her parent and will step in if I think she's out of her depth.

The trick, of course, is not to LET her get out of her depth.  I don't want to come in and fix things; I don't want there to be anything to fix.  There are precautions that we take: 

She has to ask for permission to use the computer.  It's password protected, and she doesn't have the password.  She has to ask her father or I to unlock it.

The desktop computer is in the living room, and none of the kids are allowed to be on the computer when there's no adult in the room.  There's always an adult in the room whenever she or her brothers are online.

We don't have any messenger programs on the desktop, and we don't allow participation in chat rooms under any circumstances.

We have the user ID's and passwords to ALL email and ID-protected sites. 

 

Those are all good precautions, right?  I think so.  But I also think that they're not enough.  There are a million things that she could be looking at or writing about without my knowledge.  Things that, despite my wanting to give her a sense of privacy and respect, I need to know about.

So I snoop.

She knows that I snoop occasionally.  She knows that I am able to see exactly what she looked at and how long she looked at it for.  She knows that I am able to uncover what she wrote and see who responded.  She knows that I'm looking and monitoring, and whilst I think she might be slightly frustrated at my snooping she knows that I'm doing it for her protection.

She knows, because I've told her.  When I found an article that she wrote on her blog about how she was upset at her grandfather's death and how she felt unhappy enough to wonder how she could get rid of the emotional pain she was experiencing, I sat down with her in her room and talked to her about it.  She asked me to leave and then cried herself to sleep, but the next day she was able to tell me why she had written in and discuss how we could deal with her pain. 

When we found that she'd been visiting some pretty dark vampire/goth sites we again asked her what she was doing there and why.  She'd only been there briefly, but the content of those sites was disturbing enough to us that we felt the need to ask her about them.

She still visits some places that are not exactly my cup of tea.  She has her style and is developing a pretty strong sense of self.  She also has a well-defined sense of right and wrong, so I'm not terribly worried about what she does online.

I don't want to have a net-nanny.  I don't want to micro-manage the content of my kid's lives.  I don't want them to feel like I'm always in their business....but I want them to know that I'm still their parent and I WILL do whatever it takes to protect them from things I don't believe they're ready to see.

I snoop, and I'm not ashamed of it.


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on Aug 25, 2006

I dont blame you.  I snoop too, but mine is more on demand as I have a program that I can check what my sons are doing or have been doing.  I rarely do, because I know where they are going and it got boring!

But I still spot check.  And yep, still boring.  Those game and music sites are just not my cup of tea.

on Aug 25, 2006

rarely do, because I know where they are going and it got boring!

Exactly.  I do it occasionally just to see what's up...and if I see anything I think warrants more attention, I snoop more often.

And yep, still boring. Those game and music sites are just not my cup of tea.

Mine either.  I don't mind GreenDay, MCR and AFI, but there are some bands that are just too...intense for me.

Not my cup of tea at all.

on Aug 25, 2006

Not my cup of tea at all.

I think that makes us Grups!

on Aug 25, 2006
dharmagrl...theres nothing at all wrong with "snooping" as you say...its part of being a good parent...but you also have to allow kids to explore life...the good and the bad...its how people learn...so you just have to be careful not to stifle that learning process or they're desire to express they're feelings. And as soon as someone connects to the internet your exposed to the extremes when it comes to the good and bad the world has to offer. I like to think I am a pretty aware & knowledgeable person that isn't to shocked by things in life, but when I connected to the internet...man...did I ever get a reality check!

So what your doing isn't something you should be ashamed of in the least and should be applauded for your efforts.   
on Aug 25, 2006

but you also have to allow kids to explore life...the good and the bad...its how people learn...so you just have to be careful not to stifle that learning process or they're desire to express they're feelings.

Exactly.  Like I said, I'm trying to prepare them for the uneven playing field that is life, but at the same time try to retain as much of their childish innocence as possible.  It's a difficult thing to do.

 

on Aug 25, 2006
I snoop, and frankly parents who don't snoop make me wonder if they even truly care.
on Aug 25, 2006
sounds like good parenting to me, not snooping.
on Aug 25, 2006
We have a "Right to privacy, no right to secrecy" rule. It's worked well for us. Your rules are very similar to mine. We've had to add a few because the kids are very technical: history better not ever be empty nor cookies and internet temp files.
on Aug 25, 2006
I don't snoop.......my son's (13)computer does not have access to the internet. He has to use mine or my wifes and both are password protected. One of us has to let him on and is in the room with him at all times. We don't stand over his shoulder unless he asks for help. I used to get a lot of flack from him because his friends parents let them have access on their bedroom systems. In May I showed his best friends father how to check the history and look in the cache to see whats his son's been doing. Now I'm the bad guy because his Dad won't give him access at all. Seems he was visiting quite a few adult sites.

My house is not a Democracy....and he has no rights that I'm not willing to give him.
on Aug 25, 2006
That's a good Mom - keep at it.
on Aug 25, 2006
My house is not a Democracy....and he has no rights that I'm not willing to give him.


Most houses are not. I allow it, because I can monitor it. And he can do what he wants, within the bounds I have set. He knows it, and does not violate it.
on Aug 25, 2006
My advice as a grand mother of a 13 year old. Snoop away.
on Aug 25, 2006
well-defined sense of right and wrong,

dharmagirl, sounds like she's twice-blessed to have the parents she does.
Oh, boy! My son's 9 (!) next month, and my daughter's 11 (!!) end of Sept.
At times I wonder when they'll need to be "snooped". Feels like all of the fireworks are about to start poppin', so I'm making sure I enjoy the hell out of these precious months as they approach teenhood. Oh. My. Gawd. I won't ever be ready for that, so am just gonna have to ride the wave when it comes...[thinks about growing up a surf-rat delinquent L.A. beachbum kid, highschool class of '60..]    
on Aug 26, 2006

I snoop, and frankly parents who don't snoop make me wonder if they even truly care

As do I.  Shea has a friend who's mother lets her do what she wants, when she wants - this is the girl who persuaded SHea it would be ok to go to the mall without telling me.  They were supposed to be sleeping over at this girl's house, not going off base, and certainly not going to the mall in urban St Louis alone, unsupervised/attended on a Friday night.  Shea ended up with a grounding and mononucleosis out of that little escapade.  Anyway, this girl tells her mother to STFU and to go to hell, and the mom just takes it and gives the girl no consequences for her actions.  I cannot understand parenting like that.  I just can't.

 


Reply By: ModeratemanPosted: Friday, August 25, 2006
sounds like good parenting to me

Thank you, Elie.  I try, you know?  

 

We've had to add a few because the kids are very technical: history better not ever be empty nor cookies and internet temp files.

Yep, that's one of our rules too.  No deleting the history or cookies.  If that ever happens, they know that they can expect to be grounded from using the computer indefinitely.

my son's (13)computer does not have access to the internet. He has to use mine or my wifes and both are password protected. One of us has to let him on and is in the room with him at all times

2 of ours have old desktops that we've had spare when we upgraded, and they've asked for internet access on them pretty regularly.  The answer is always (and will continue to be) "No".  It's just not a good idea.....

 

keep at it.

I'm trying!

 

he can do what he wants, within the bounds I have set. He knows it, and does not violate it.

Exactly. 

My advice as a grand mother of a 13 year old. Snoop away

It makes me feel good to hear that!

 

Feels like all of the fireworks are about to start poppin'

We also have an almost-12-year-old and a 10 year old...and let me tell you, the adage about girls being harder than boys just isn't true.  Our son...well, he's already difficult, and he's not even a teenager yet!

 

I wouldn't worry too much about the goth/vampire thing

I normally don't.  However, some of the sites she was visiting were about cutting and blood letting, and I just don't think that she needs to be going there yet.  She's mature, yes, but she's not ready for that yet.  

 

the Pastor's teenaged daughter got into that scene, and pretty deeply, even showing up for church in full regalia, floor length leather dusters covered with straps and buckles, heavy black eyeliner, dog collars, frankenstein boots and all.

That's Shea.  Right down to the eyemakeup.

 

didnt you buy a pair of *very* gothy bondage boots not long ago?

Yep, and Shea wears them on a daily basis.

on Aug 26, 2006
Hmm...I don't know, I'd probably be looking over my kid's shoulder while they were surfing the internet. I've been on here for awhile and I've seen things that make the baby Jesus cry...horrible, horrible, horrible things. Not to mention all the sick people out there...

Actually, I'd probably be worse than any of this.... I'm a little overprotective, I guess...and I don't even have kids yet.

~Zoo
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