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A rant.
Published on October 7, 2005 By dharmagrl In Misc

*This is a rant.  Please read it as such....a rant.  I'm just venting and getting stuff off my chest...so take some of it with a grain of salt, please*

I messed up my back last Friday.  I twisted to get out of the truck, and my lower back spasmed up on me.  I had to go to the ER, was in a TON of pain and was pretty disheartened.

My friend K called on Friday evening to make sure I was okay, and also to ask if Dave and I wanted to go to another neighbors house on Saturday evening to havea few beers and eat some cook-out.  She said that if I wasn't feeling up to it that we shouldn't worry, they'd understand.

Saturday rolls around, and I spend all day on the couch.  Dave has to go to the commissary by himself and do the grocery shopping; the most I can do is get up and go to the bathroom every couple of hours.  We talk about the invitation, and decide that neither of us want to go.  I'm hurting, and he doesn't feel like socializing.

That evening, K's husband comes and knocks on the kitchen door.  Dave answers it, and K's husband asks if we're going to the cook-out.  Dave says no, that I'm still not feeling good and he doesn't feel like hanging out....K's husband was a little upset and said "we're only drinking beer and eating meat" and Dave says "yeah, but I don't feel like doing that...sorry, man", and comes inside.

Neither of us thought anything else of it until Monday evening.  I had managed to get myself up and walking again with the aid of my cane (hadn't used that cane for almost a month prior to this), so we wandered down to the end of the block for an after-supper walk. 

We pass by K's house, and her husband looks at me and says "so how come you wouldn't let him come and drink at my welcome-home get together?"

Hmm.  Hmm.  How come I wouldn't LET him? Well, let's see....

First of all, it wasn't even at their house, it was at someone elses house, and neither Dave or I were comfortable just showing up at someone's house uninvited by them.  Call us old-fashioned, but that's just how we are.  Second, Dave didn't feel like going.  He's not the most social person on the face of the planet.  Third, he doesn't drink right now.  Sitting around and watching other people get drunk isn't his idea of a 'good time'. Fourth, he was in the middle of watching a movie.  Lastly....I was hurt and incapacitated, and he felt like he needed to be home with me. 

It kind of rubbed me the wrong way.  K and I are good friends, she helped me out a lot when our guys were deployed together....so I guess that comment is bothering me more than if it had come from some nobody that we don't know that well. I resent the implication that I control what my husand does, because I don't.  Dave doesn't do a DAMN thing just because I tell him to, he does things because HE wants to.......and he DIDN'T want to go hang out and watch people drink.   I'm going to be honest: if he had said "Hey, d'you care if I go" I'd probably have said "yeah, I do sort of care" - but I wouldn't have stopped him or pitched a fit over it.  If he had really wanted to go, he could have, and he would have...regardless of what I had said.

But whatever.  It's easier to blame me, I guess.  That's okay.  I know what's really up; I know how things are in my relationship.  I know that both Dave and I can do pretty much as we please.....but what other people ought to realise is that our doing as we 'please' usually always involves doing things WITH each other.  We don't spend much time socializing apart because we simply don't have much fun without each other.  We've spent waaaaay too much time separated by huge distances recently and we're about to spend even MORE time apart - so we CHOOSE to spend time together.

I guess that's really hard for some folks to get their heads around.  That we CHOOSE to not do things solo, and that he's NOT under my thumb.  Oh well. 

*Rant over.  Thanks for listening*

 


Comments
on Oct 07, 2005
Dave doesn't do a DAMN thing just because I tell him to, he does things because HE wants to.......and he DIDN'T want to go hang out and watch people drink.


Seeing as your friend is married, you'd think she'd realize that a guy is gonna do what a guy wants to do, lol.

They usually ask us as a courtesy, and if we don't like it, they find a way to placate us so that they can go do what they want without getting bitched at. Haha.

Adrian's the same way. We're both sort of homebodies, but him more so than me. When he doesn't go somewhere, it's because he doesn't WANT to.

Besides all that, if a man feels obligated to stay home and keep an eye on his injured wife, good for him!
on Oct 07, 2005

Adrian's the same way. We're both sort of homebodies, but him more so than me. When he doesn't go somewhere, it's because he doesn't WANT to.

Exactly.  If Dave really wants to go somewhere, he does.  Yeah, he finds some way to make me happy about it (like making a point of doing something I want to do) but he does go do his own thing.

Seeing as your friend is married, you'd think she'd realize that a guy is gonna do what a guy wants to do, lol.

I think that SHE did...I think that HE was the one who didn't get it.  I dunno why....I mean, he's married too, he oughtta know how it is...!

on Oct 07, 2005
Besides all that, if a man feels obligated to stay home and keep an eye on his injured wife, good for him!


Atta girl, Tex.

Personally, I'm kind what Tex would describe as homebody. I rarely, go out. On those odd times that I do, it's extremely rare that I don't take my wife, and/or family with me. I have been known to drag the kids out of the house on a Saturday morning so that my wife can have some time to herself.

To address Dharma's point - I prefer to adjust my schedule to what my wife has planned. Why? One, I really don't care one way or the other what we do, as long as it's together. Second, it's a fine way to ... preserve matrimonial harmony, as Dr. Guy put it earlier today. Usually, what I want to do is spend time with my wife and children. If the guys (what few friends I've got) don't understand that ... they should realize that I don't have to spend the rest of my life with them. I do want to spend the rest of my life w/ my wife. 'Sides, shouldn't a guy want to spend time w/ his best friend? Oh, yeah. That was a reference to my wife.
on Oct 07, 2005
'Sides, shouldn't a guy want to spend time w/ his best friend? Oh, yeah. That was a reference to my wife.


Aren't you a sweetie, hehe.

This is particularly true in the military...we might develop strong bonds of friendship with the people around us, but when we (or they) move, they don't move with us (or vice versa). Our partners are always there and the ones we can depend on.
on Oct 07, 2005
Usually, what I want to do is spend time with my wife and children. If the guys (what few friends I've got) don't understand that ... they should realize that I don't have to spend the rest of my life with them. I do want to spend the rest of my life w/ my wife


THANK YOU!!!! That's what I'm talking about!

We used to know some people who basically shared a house together...there wasn't really a marriage in the traditional sense. He did what he wanted, she did what she wanted, and they didn't do anything together except sleep. He started to put pressure on Dave to go do stuff, and Dave kept resisting. i kept saying that he just didn't get it and Dave said he wasn't really like that...but them something happened that made Dave re-asses his relationship with this guy.

dave was going to greenland for a year-long tour alone. He was leaving on a Wednesday morning, and Friday evening, this guy called and asked what we were doing on Saturday night. Dave said we didn't have plans, so this guy told him that he was having a few people over for a cookout and a party and Dave was invited. Dave said "hold on, I'll ask Karen if she wants to go" and the guy said "oh no, man....no women allowed. Just us guys". I was so proud of his response: "Look dude, I'm leaving for a YEAR in less than a week. if you think I want to spend time with anyone but my wife and kids this weekend...well, you're fucking crazy. Just because you don't want to be with your wife, don't mean I don't want to be with mine".

So yeah, dave does what he wants to.....and sometimes that involves spending time with me.

on Oct 07, 2005
This is particularly true in the military...we might develop strong bonds of friendship with the people around us, but when we (or they) move, they don't move with us (or vice versa). Our partners are always there and the ones we can depend on


This is so, so true. When it comes down to the wire, Dave and I turn to each other because we know that we're the only ones that will always be there for each other. Through deployments and PCS moves, TDY's and schools, your spouse is the one constant. Your house and base may change, but if you look after your spouse....they won't.
on Oct 08, 2005
You sound like us. HW does what he wants, when he wants. But he's easy to please! He's very much a homebody. And dispite everything else....9 times out of 10 we'd rather hang out together than apart. After all, in 8 1/2 years of marriage, we have been apart for 4 of them. Why wouldn't we want to be together in the few hours the Army lets him go?

I feel sorry for people who are married to someone who isn't their best friend.....
on Oct 08, 2005

HW does what he wants, when he wants. But he's easy to please!

That's  Dave all over.  He'd rather be at home with his wife and kids than out in a bar somewhere.  He's not a big partier...he has a drink every so often so he's not teetotal, but he just doesn't get a lot of satisfaction out of hanging out and drinking. 

in 8 1/2 years of marriage, we have been apart for 4 of them. Why wouldn't we want to be together in the few hours the Army lets him go?

That was his point too.  He's been away so much lately and he's going to be gone again next month, so he had no desire to ditch me and the kids so he could go sit around with people he didn't know very well.

 

I feel sorry for people who are married to someone who isn't their best friend.....

Me too.  I don't understand all these people who treat their spouse like they're a boulder around their neck, weighing them down.  Yeah, Dave and I have our rough spots and we bitch about each other, BUT...at the end of the day, we're the most important people in each other's lives, more important than any cookout or beer of 'welcome home' party. 

I guess people just don't get that.

on Oct 08, 2005
H and I have been married for a little over a year now, and after we got married he—for reasons only he can divine—quit blogging, talking to friends, etc. I like to think it was because of all the sex. (There's a line somewhere...I may have crossed it.) Anyway, his friends would call him up and say, "Hey, why aren't you doing things with us?" And he'd just be all noncommital. And if they came over, I'd be the recipient of those accusatory looks.

I had nothing to do with his choice! I encouraged him to get out, to do things with friends, that kind of stuff. I went to bed early when they came over (or went to bed to read) so they could have "guy time." But nonetheless, he'd be in bed with me within an hour. What the hell!?

Thankfully it was a phase and he's getting out again. You'd think that marriage plummeted him into a pit of depression or something, sheesh. I still think his friends blame me even though I had nothing to do with it and I—like others have said—wished he would get out of the house.

The minds of men.

So, er, I understand.

-A.
on Oct 08, 2005
I can say this about that. I used to use my ex-wife as an excuse to not do things, you know as in she does not feel well or has other plans {both lies} I just could not accept responsibility for my own actions.
on Oct 08, 2005

I used to use my ex-wife as an excuse to not do things, you know as in she does not feel well or has other plans {both lies} I just could not accept responsibility for my own actions.

OOh, you naughty man! I think that Dave does that sometimes as well....in fact, I think that last week may have been him using me more as an excuse.....

Anyway, his friends would call him up and say, "Hey, why aren't you doing things with us?" And he'd just be all noncommital. And if they came over, I'd be the recipient of those accusatory looks.

I had nothing to do with his choice!

Yeah, I get that too!  What's up with that?  Now K's husband thinks that I'm a controlling beeatch, when in actuality I'm.....I'm......well, not as MUCHof a controlling beeatch as he thinks.

So far though, the only thing he's done since we moved to Richmond last year was go have a few beers at a pub with our next door neighbor, Paul.

Then again, I don't go anywhere, either, but at least I do the shopping and laundry solo most weeks, hahah.

Gawd, we're a boring couple.

Ha, we got you beat in the boring stakes.  We're MORE boring than you guys...we don't smoke, we don't drink, we don't do illegal drugs, we don't gamble, we don't get together with friends regularly (because we don't really have many friends, being the boring people that we are...we're too dull to be enjoyable company).  I'm a controlling beeatch, he's an asshole, and we're dull, geeky nerds who'd rather watch 'Mythbusters' and go to bed at 9pm than party and drink.

I think that K's husband read this article and knows that I ranted about it.  He hasn't said anything to me (or to Dave), but...I'd like him to know that whilst what he said rubbed me the wrong way, I don't think he's a horrible person.  His wife is the closest thing to a best friend I have, and I have a ton of respect for the both of them.  I just don't like being asked how come I don't let my husband go do stuff, because that's not how this marriage operates.

So, dude (you know who you are), if you read this don't think that it's an attack on you because it's not.  As your lovely wife can tell you, if I was going to attack you I'd have been waaaaay more vocal about it and would probably have come down and done it face to face.  What you said just got me to thinking, and I decided to let off a little steam about it.  No big deal (not to me, anyway).

on Oct 08, 2005
I feel sorry for people who are married to someone who isn't their best friend.....

It's the best thing in the world, isn't it? Being married to your best friend?

I occasionally take trips with girlfriends... Women of Faith Conference... get together with my net friends once every other year. Other than that, we're together most of the time. We're so stinking busy that if we have free time, we WANT to spend it together. Between various meetings and such, there's not a lot of it. I do wish we did more about getting out by ourselves, without the kids, once in a while. We could use a "date night".

on Oct 08, 2005
#12 by dharmagrl
Saturday, October 08, 2005


I used to use my ex-wife as an excuse to not do things, you know as in she does not feel well or has other plans {both lies} I just could not accept responsibility for my own actions.

OOh, you naughty man! I think that Dave does that sometimes as well....in fact, I think that last week may have been him using me more as an excuse.....


naughty? nope, honest, yes, see what I did was WRONG, corrected it with new wife.
on Oct 08, 2005
I dunno why....I mean, he's married too, he oughtta know how it is...!


Obviously K's husband is pussy-whipped and imagines everyone else is in his boat. The poor dear.


I guess that's really hard for some folks to get their heads around.  That we CHOOSE to not do things solo, and that he's NOT under my thumb.  Oh well.


Have you ever heard the Alabama song She and I?

Ah but just because we aren't often seen separately
People think we live one life.
It's hard for them to see how anyone could be as close as
She and I