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Published on August 23, 2005 By dharmagrl In Current Events

D and I watched a documentary about some Spec.For guys in Afghanistan last night.

Four American soldiers worked with the Afghani Militia and went around to various villages and settlements, working on Intel they'd been given about weapons caches and Taliban activity.

These villages they went to were remote and desolate.  There was no industry, no agricultual opportunities....they couldn't even grow the opium poppies that other viallges relied on for income.  They had nothing.

Except the money that the Taliban gave them as payment for storing the ammo and weapons.

So, the Americans come through, they find the weapons, and they arrest and take into custody the men of the village.  Some of the villages had vehicles, and they blew those up, rendering them useless before they left. 

They leave the women and children behond to fend for themselves.  If you know anything about the Muslim way of life and the Afghani culture, you'll know that women are worth less than a pair of shoes.  These women that were left behind after their men were shipped off to Gitmo and Bagram as Taliban sympathisers and therefore 'war criminals'..they had no future.  They had no way to survive.  No hope of finding a job, of providing for their children.  No food, no way of getting food.  Nothing in their future except the prospect of starvation and perhaps death when the Taliban came back to pick up their goods and found them gone.

The soldiers that raided the villages left them with some supplies.  Some blankets, some toys for the kids, some medicine for the worms that infested their bellies from drinking dirty water.

It all affected me.  It made me angry. It also made me cry.

The thing that reduced me to tears was this:  an American soldier opened up a box of those individual-serving boxes of Froot Loops.  he started to hand them out and before he knew it he was engulfed by a mob of dusty, dirty children, all of them grabbing and hitting and fighting their way to a little box of cereal.

Kids, willing to nearly kill each other for a little box of Kelloggs.  Here we are, in our homes with clean water and electricity.  Here we are, living in a country where even the lowest of the low gets an income from the government, gets money to buy food with.  Here we are, complaining.  Here we are, saying that we're 'entitled' to more.  That we shouldn't have to live in poverty, that our 'guv'ment' should provide us with a comfortable standard of living, that we shouldn't have to work to feed and house our families, that the rest of the community should have to 'fess up some of their money and give it to us so that we can live as large as they are. 

Some of us don't know how good we have it. 

 


Comments
on Aug 23, 2005
When one of the kids from my church youth group get the opportunity to go overseas, when they come back I always take the time to talk to them about their experiences. The level of poverty is almost always the thing that hits them the hardest. I'm glad you took away from that documentary an apprectiation for what poverty truly means... and what usually causes it.
on Aug 23, 2005

Ted:  My brother went to Russia before the dissolution of the USSR and came back literally devastated by what he had seen.  He said it was the kids that bothered him the most.  They haven't done anything to warrant their circumstances, all they did was be born.

That's how I felt last night, and that's how I feel when i see Nigerian and Ethipoian children starving to death.  I keep telling Dave that it makes me want to go get as many of them as I can, bring them back to our home and just feed, love and nurture them back to health. 

If I was physically able and if I could find an agency that would take me, I'd volunteer to go to help out in the refugee camps.  I think that every American who has ever complained about their welfeare check not being enough should go do the same.  They should go get a dose of what REAL poverty is like.

Perhaps then they'd appreciate what they've got.

Oh, and it's not just the poverty that bothers me, it was what this war has come to.  We all talk about the 'war on terror' but very few of us see the realities of it.

Last night I got a glimpse, and I was disgusted.

on Aug 23, 2005

dharma, I understand your disgust, but how disgusted would you have felt had these weapons been used against american soldiers?

Oh, I know that what they were doing was necessary.  I have no doubt that they were doing what needed to be done. 

It's always a shock to realize that war does indeed have a human face, that innocents suffer right alongside the combatants, and that moral choices aren't always as clear cut as we'd like them to be.

Excatly.  There are people in this country who like to think in terms of black and white, and they simply don't see the human aspect of this war.  They sit in their armchairs in their airconditioned houses, spouting off about how 'we' shouldn't be doing this that or the other, but have they done anything to help, to make a difference, to go beyond mere words and venture in action?  No, and they won't.

Don't feel helpless or overwhelmed, you CAN make a difference if you really want to.

I know I can, and I will.  Even if it's something as sinple as donating clothing or blankets or toys....it all makes a difference to someone.

on Aug 23, 2005
It is sad... terribly sad. But sad too is the life they led before our troops arrived. Time will tell what life the future holds for them... but I have to believe that it will be better than the one they had under the Taliban's rule.

We completely take for granted the life we have here. Even the poorest among us are rich compared to those in other countries. Here are some facts about persons described as "poor" by the Census Bureau, taken from various government reports in 2004 Link

-Forty-six percent of all poor households actually own their own homes. The average home owned by persons classified as poor by the Census Bureau is a three-bedroom house with one-and-a-half baths, a garage, and a porch or patio.

-Seventy-six percent of poor households have air conditioning. By contrast, 30 years ago, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.

-Only 6 percent of poor households are overcrowded. More than two-thirds have more than two rooms per person.

-The average poor American has more living space than the average individual living in Paris, London, Vienna, Athens, and other cities throughout Europe. (These comparisons are to the average citizens in foreign countries, not to those classified as poor.)

-Nearly three-quarters of poor households own a car; 30 percent own two or more cars.
Ninety-seven percent of poor households have a color television; over half own two or more color televisions.

-Seventy-eight percent have a VCR or DVD player; 62 percent have cable or satellite TV reception.

-Seventy-three percent own microwave ovens, more than half have a stereo, and a third have an automatic dishwasher.


You're right, Dharma. We have no idea what poverty is. We live in a society where you don't have to work if you don't feel like it... someone will always provide for you. When you compare that with the situation in other countries, for anyone to complain is just pathetic.

This chart is telling...

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Rank Country Population below poverty line (%)
1 Chad 80
2 Haiti 80
3 Moldova 80
4 Guatemala 75
5 Madagascar 71
6 Mozambique 70
7 Suriname 70
8 Angola 70
9 Bolivia 70
10 Zimbabwe 70
11 Sierra Leone 68
12 Burundi 68
13 Ecuador 65
14 Mali 64
15 Niger 63
16 Nigeria 60
17 Rwanda 60
18 Comoros 60
19 Tajikistan 60
20 Malawi 55
21 Senegal 54
22 Peru 54
23 Georgia 54
24 Honduras 53
25 Djibouti 50
26 Armenia 50
27 South Africa 50
28 Nicaragua 50
29 Mauritania 50
30 Ethiopia 50
31 Kenya 50
32 Kyrgyzstan 50
33 Namibia 50
34 Azerbaijan 49
35 Cameroon 48
36 El Salvador 48
37 Botswana 47
38 Venezuela 47
39 Burkina Faso 45
40 East Timor 42
41 Guinea 40
42 Iran 40
43 Laos 40
44 Mexico 40
45 Philippines 40
46 Panama 37
47 Papua New Guinea 37
48 Benin 37
49 Vietnam 37
50 Tanzania 36
51 Cambodia 36
52 Paraguay 36
53 Pakistan 35
54 Uganda 35
55 Turkmenistan 34.4
56 Mongolia 33
57 Belize 33
58 Togo 32
59 Ghana 31.4
60 Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of 30.2
61 Jordan 30
62 Dominica 30
63 Albania 30
64 Ukraine 29
65 Lebanon 28
66 Kazakhstan 26
67 India 25
68 Burma 25
69 Algeria 23
70 Guam 23
71 Sri Lanka 22
72 Belarus 22
73 Brazil 22
74 Trinidad and Tobago 21
75 Chile 20.6
76 Costa Rica 20.6
77 Syria 20
78 Jamaica 19.7
79 Morocco 19
80 Poland 18.4
81 Israel 18
82 United Kingdom 17
83 Egypt 16.7
84 Bulgaria 13.4
85 United States 12
86 Thailand 10.4
87 China 10
88 Ireland 10
89 Mauritius 10
90 Hungary 8.6
91 Malaysia 8
92 Tunisia 7.6
93 Korea, South 4
94 Belgium 4
95 Taiwan 1

(Link)

It's time we suck it up and be grateful for what we have, rather than whining about how "poor" we are. Instead of focusing on our own wants (and that's what they are - very few people in the US are actually in "need"), we would do well to look to the victims of war in Iraq and Afghanistan and gain some perspective... and while we're at it, see what WE can do to help people in TRUE need.

"That the poor are invisible is one of the most important things about them. They are not simply neglected and forgotten as in the old rhetoric of reform; what is much worse, they are not seen." ~Michael Harrington

Thank you for attempting to open eyes, Dharma.
on Aug 23, 2005

It's time we suck it up and be grateful for what we have, rather than whining about how "poor" we are

That's right, sistah.  Time for those on welfare who bitch that they're being discriminated against because they can't afford a big-screen TV to STFU and count their blessings.  IMO if you and your family are fed, clothed and sheltered, if you have power and clean water to drink...well, then you're doing a lot better than most of the world's 'poor'.  I'd love for some of those whiners to take a trip to Somalia or nigeria and see how the poor there are living.  Perhaps then they'd be grateful for what they're getting...for free, no less.

on Aug 23, 2005
Ironic how many who complain about "the rich" are in the top 1% richest in the world, ain't it! ;~D
on Aug 23, 2005
In Jr. High, instead of sending us to summer camp, my parents used to send us out on service trips with church. We served food in downtown Minneapolis and worked on habitat for humanity, we built one room houses out of concrete in Juarez, Mexico. We always came back a lot more appreciative of what we had. I think we should show our children what the world is really like.
on Aug 23, 2005
In Jr. High, instead of sending us to summer camp, my parents used to send us out on service trips with church. We served food in downtown Minneapolis and worked on habitat for humanity, we built one room houses out of concrete in Juarez, Mexico. We always came back a lot more appreciative of what we had. I think we should show our children what the world is really like.
on Aug 23, 2005
In Bosnia, I saw families living in bombed out homes with plastic over the holes in the wall. I was freezing in my nifty Gortex pants and jacket until I noticed the lady with strips of cloth tied around her legs to keep her warm. People in the rural village nearby were struggling to stay warm and feed their kids. It put a lot in perspective for me.
on Aug 23, 2005
Jr. High, instead of sending us to summer camp, my parents used to send us out on service trips with church. We served food in downtown Minneapolis and worked on habitat for humanity, we built one room houses out of concrete in Juarez, Mexico. We always came back a lot more appreciative of what we had. I think we should show our children what the world is really like.

This sounds like an excellent idea. A friend of mine just returned from a missions trip to Bosnia. She had a difficult time assimilating back into life in the states because her trip revealed to her how wasteful we are, and how materialistic. She definitely got perspective.
on Aug 23, 2005
Dharmagrl, I need your help. I'm really sorry to interrupt.

Do you remember way back when, when you said (in astericks) something like "looks down at feet" or somethin like that to indicate pleased shyness? Do you remember what it was? If you do, please e-mail me... I'm in dire need of such an expression.

Dan
on Aug 26, 2005
Most of us who live in the western world have nothing to complain about, yet we do. I think it is the nature of humans to complain as it spurs some of us on to try to make things better for everyone else around us.

I try to be thankful every day for the good life I have, a pleasant home, plenty of food and water, the access to good medical and dental programs, education, etc. IMO, I think it is important to make these sorts of acknowledgements because it stops me from taking anything I have for granted.