Yes, there are. Let me ask you this, Drmiler...you know I have back problems, right? Ok, so what would you think of me if I went to my family doctor and asked him for a prescription of narcotics for my back..and he gave me one. No problem, right? but what if I then went to my neurosurgeon and asked him for the same, not telling him that I already had some from my family doc? What if I asked the general surgeon for the same thing, and didn't tell him about it either? How about if I went to another clinic, to a doctor that I'd never met before, and told him that I had messed up discs that were causing me pain and that I needed some pain relief, and again failed to tell him about the three other prescriptions that I had gotten from other physicians for the same thing? What if that doctor referred me to a specialist for my back, and I asked the specialist for pain meds too? That would make a total of 5 prescriptions, and none of the docs who wrote them would know that I already had a prescription from 4 other physicians. If they did, they'd have refused to write a prescription for me. So, what would you think of me if I did that? I know what I'd think of myself if I did that, and I also know that I'd think of someone else who did that - that they were addicted, and that they were using deceit and lies to get their drugs.

Who am I to judge your level of pain? For that matter who are we to judge Rush's?

Meant no offense, dharmagrl. I just re-read your article and still don't see how the criminality of addictive behavior has anything to do with it.

Cheers,
Daiwa

Who am I to judge your level of pain?

Aww, c'mon Dr! Don't fob me off with that! You know very well what I'm talking about. If I have my family doctor write me a script for percocet and give me instructions of how to take it and when, and then I got get the same medication from 4 or 5 other doctors, none of whom know that I have the same/similar prescriptions...you think they'd like that? Hell no. There's a limit to the amount of narcotics you can take before you either OD or shoot your liver to bits. No doctor in his right mind. This isn't about pain, this is about collecting as many prescriptions for pain meds and you can because YOU LIKE THE WAY THEY MAKE YOU FEEL. There are many more effective ways of controlling pain than pills, there are patches and shots and all kinds of things. Had Rush said to his doc "look, these pills aren't working, what else can we try" i'm sure his physician would be willing to help and suggest something else. That's what I did, and my doc worked with me. You don't go from doctor to doctor to doctor asking for the same thing without telling them what you're already on.

Meant no offense, dharmagrl

None taken, Daiwa...and I started another thread about the legalities of doctor shopping.

Aww, c'mon Dr! Don't fob me off with that! You know very well what I'm talking about. If I have my family doctor write me a script for percocet and give me instructions of how to take it and when, and then I got get the same medication from 4 or 5 other doctors, none of whom know that I have the same/similar prescriptions...you think they'd like that? Hell no. There's a limit to the amount of narcotics you can take before you either OD or shoot your liver to bits. No doctor in his right mind. This isn't about pain, this is about collecting as many prescriptions for pain meds and you can because YOU LIKE THE WAY THEY MAKE YOU FEEL

How do "you" know it wasn't about pain for him? You know at a certain point the doc will NOT prescribe any higher a dose or anything stronger. No matter what your pain level. You can't compare "your" doctor to his unless they're the same doctor. Each one is different. I've already gone through this. In CA, the doctor absolutely refused to believe there was anything serious wrong with my face even though the my MS was a documented fact. But the pain was so great it was affecting not only my quality of life but my vision and balance. And the only thing he would proscribe was 800mg Ibuprofen. I came back east and a whole new set of doctors takes over. By the time they were done they had figured out that I had trigeminal neuralgia Link (which any neurologist can tell you is the most painful thing that they have cataloged). And as such was proscribed appropriate meds. Who are you to say this isn't what happened to Rush? Unless you've walked a mile in his shoes, do NOT be so quick to judge!

You know at a certain point the doc will NOT prescribe any higher a dose or anything stronger.

Yeah, which is why people go get prescriptions from other providers and don't tell any of them that they're already being treated!  Your doctors knew that you were being seen by specialists, right?  Everyone was i the loop?  People who doctor shop don't tell their providers that they're already being treated.  Everyone's in the dark.

I walk with chronic pain every single fucking day, dude.  I know how it is to be in so much pain you can't think straight.  This isn't about me, or you, this is about someone who berates drug users and abusers publicly but was one himself.  This is about someone who was deceitful and manipulative.  This is about Rush Limbaugh saying some things that a whole bunch of people took the same way as I did...as incredibly insensitive and arrogant.

 

Yeah, which is why people go get prescriptions from other providers and don't tell any of them that they're already being treated! Your doctors knew that you were being seen by specialists, right? Everyone was i the loop? People who doctor shop don't tell their providers that they're already being treated. Everyone's in the dark. I walk with chronic pain every single fucking day, dude. I know how it is to be in so much pain you can't think straight. This isn't about me, or you, this is about someone who berates drug users and abusers publicly but was one himself. This is about someone who was deceitful and manipulative. This is about Rush Limbaugh saying some things that a whole bunch of people took the same way as I did...as incredibly insensitive and arrogant

--Just thinking about JU users number of people in pain, it seems that a lot of people on here seem to have either had/have diseases,etc... and they take a lot of meds.....hmmm, just realized that....

Just thinking about JU users number of people in pain, it seems that a lot of people on here seem to have either had/have diseases,etc... and they take a lot of meds.....hmmm, just realized that

What's your point, Lucas? Dude, why do you come here and make comments like that? You know I don't like you, you know it aggrivates me to no end when you talk just to hear yourself speak, so why the fuck do you insist on continuing this? Do you WANT me to go off on you? Ah...yeah, that would make you happy, huh? Poor pitiful Lucas, all he did was make a comment and big bad Dharma yelled at him, just like Little Whip did.

Make your point, Lucas (if you have one, that is)...then go away. Please.

If the entire episode is viewed from the perspective of the individuals caught inside the blast, it is a more than horrific and terryfing experience that will seer images in the hearts and minds of those who live through it as well as their families. Nightmares will follow some to their dying day as well as physical deformaties. This is a terrible and tragic thing, a fearful thing. I do not intend to discredit their pain and suffering nor offend them.

But that's exactly what RL's statement did, and I'm not the only person who heard it ad took it that way. Like I keep saying, for an experienced broadcaster he sure put his foot in his mouth with this one.

What's your point, Lucas? Dude, why do you come here and make comments like that? You know I don't like you, you know it aggrivates me to no end when you talk just to hear yourself speak, so why the fuck do you insist on continuing this? Do you WANT me to go off on you? Ah...yeah, that would make you happy, huh? Poor pitiful Lucas, all he did was make a comment and big bad Dharma yelled at him, just like Little Whip did. Make your point, Lucas (if you have one, that is)...then go away. Please

--All i said, was that i never really thought about it, until the talk on RL,etc... started...geez...