Those are people too. Albeit people who made horrible decisions, not unlike the terrorists.

So I guess you'll be having a few rapists, murderers and terrorists over for dinner? Maybe you can discuss some of their life chioices over dessert. That will help you "understand" them better, then maybe you can enlighten us? ;~D

Sorry Karen but the last 2 are plain old bs! They have no facts to back up those claims. And as to the first one....if he lived in "ANY" other state besides FL this would not be a problem." Yeah, and in certain places he could shack up with a 15 year old and have it not be a problem. That doesn't make it right.

Sorry dude but it's only illegal in EXACTLY "1" state! And that's FL!

Yes, it would be a problem. Maybe not legally, but it's deceitful, drug seeking behaviour that he KNEW was wrong. Going from one physician to another, not telling any of them about each other, collecting presciptions for narcotics...can you not see somehting wrong with that behaviour

Nope. If it's wrong then make it illegal.

uh, "doctor shopping" *is* illegal, man

on the same note, I don't approve of releasing private medical records without the patient's permission.

Nope. If it's wrong then make it illegal.

You don't see anything wrong with a person who's addicted to narcotics lying to multiple physicians, collecting prescriptions from narcotics from each of them and not telling any of them that he's being treated by another doctor?  You really can't see anything wrong with that?  Then you're more blinkered than I thought.

Doctor shopping is nothing better than prescription fraud, and I'm gobsmacked that you don't see anything wrong with that.

Uh, there IS a law on the books in Palm Beach county that makes "doctor shopping" illegal.

Of course, I'm sure drmiler thinks that Republican pundits should be above the law because of their politics.

They saw something wrong with it, they passed a law against it in 1984. That crime became a felony in 2002.

Yup. Hung yourself on this one, friend.

Nope. If it's wrong then make it illegal.

Of course, by this rationale, there's nothing at all wrong with abortion because it is not illegal.

*evil grin*

sorry dharma, i couldn't resist.

After reading the first half of these comments, I got disgusted and actually felt forced into replying. I'm not necessarily a fan of Rush, but generally if I listen to him for long enough, I don't get the impression that he is stupid, nor do I get the impression that he is a vicodin-addicted bigot who would only make a statement to offend people (without it trying to make a point). I'm utterly in amazement that so many of you people interpret Rush's statement, "It's like I said -- 40 people dead, 150 seriously wounded, 1,000 wounded, out of over 1 million people in that transit tube. It's not a successful terrorist attack, folks," to be Rush trying to say that 40 lives were nothing; that's VERY OBVIOUSLY not what the man is trying to say.

Rush was very evidently making the point that there are a lot of people completely up in arms about the death of 40 Britains, and this is a good thing, but why aren't people as equally outraged (still) about the death of 3,000+ Americans from 9/11?! Is the the necessary scale? 75 Americans need to die for us to be as outraged as one Britain dying? Where was the outrage and support for the "fight on terror" for the last three years? After 9/11, Americans were bloodthirsty as a nation, we were united under Bush, we could even be said as wanting revenge. And now that 40 Britains died in this attack, people are starting to get the same feeling again.

Rush is making the point that this was not a successful attack - a successful attack would have been far worse; yet there are a number of people condeming Bush every day about this "useless war;" but... where have the attacks on American soil been since this war started?

uh, "doctor shopping" *is* illegal, man

ONLY in FL!

Uh, there IS a law on the books in Palm Beach county that makes "doctor shopping" illegal. Of course, I'm sure drmiler thinks that Republican pundits should be above the law because of their politics. They saw something wrong with it, they passed a law against it in 1984. That crime became a felony in 2002. Yup. Hung yourself on this one, friend.

Nope. Because you didn't bother to read my posts. That much is obvious. Let me help you:

#63 by drmiler Tuesday, July 12, 2005 Sorry Karen but the last 2 are plain old bs! They have no facts to back up those claims. And as to the first one....if he lived in "ANY" other state besides FL this would not be a problem." Yeah, and in certain places he could shack up with a 15 year old and have it not be a problem. That doesn't make it right. Sorry dude but it's only illegal in EXACTLY "1" state! And that's FL!

And for the record, I NEVER said he should be above the law. What I DID say was, "if he lived in "ANY" other state besides FL this would not be a problem".

"if he lived in "ANY" other state besides FL this would not be a problem".

So, you're cool with him being underhanded and deceitful in obtaining prescriptions for narcotics?  You're okay with him having multiple prescriptions from multiple physicians, none of whom knew about each other? 

Anti 'Doctor Shopping' laws will end up on the books in a lot more states soon.....and then what?  Will it suddenly not be okay after that, simply because it's become illegal?

There are similiar laws elsewhere...Winona Ryder got busted on one a few years back...

dumb de dumb dumb

But I'm all for Rush eating OxyContin like Skittles. Drug laws in the country are insane. You, however, are the most self-righteouss prick I've ever met, so I like to yank your chain.

Cheers.

Reply By: MyrranderPosted: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 There are similiar laws elsewhere...Winona Ryder got busted on one a few years back...

Yes, there are.  Let me ask you this, Drmiler...you know I have back problems, right?  Ok, so what would you think of me if I went to my family doctor and asked him for a prescription of narcotics for my back..and he gave me one. No problem, right?  but what if I then went to my neurosurgeon and asked him for the same, not telling him that I already had some from my family doc?  What if I asked the general surgeon for the same thing, and didn't tell him about it either?  How about if I went to another clinic, to a doctor that I'd never met before, and told him that I had messed up discs that were causing me pain and that I needed some pain relief, and again failed to tell him about the three other prescriptions that I had gotten from other physicians for the same thing?  What if that doctor referred me to a specialist for my back, and I asked the specialist for pain meds too?  That would make a total of 5 prescriptions, and none of the docs who wrote them would know that I already had a prescription from 4 other physicians.  If they did, they'd have refused to write a prescription for me.

So, what would you think of me if I did that?   I know what I'd think of myself if I did that, and I also know that I'd think of someone else who did that - that they were addicted, and that they were using deceit and lies to get their drugs.

Doctor shopping may not be illegal, but it's underhanded, deceitful, manipulative and just plain wrong.

People who are addicted do things that are underhanded, deceitful, manipulative and just plain wrong. Happens every day. And Winona got very sympathetic treatment by the mainstream press at the time (as opposed to the tabloids). The debate about whether such behavior should be considered criminal is another topic, and not pertinent to the subject matter of this article.

Cheers,
Daiwa

The debate about whether such behavior should be considered criminal is another topic, and not pertinent to the subject matter of this article.

Not really, no, but it's my thread, my article, and if I think it's worth discussing I'll leave it here.

Thanks for stopping by!