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Published on October 17, 2004 By dharmagrl In Misc

'In the West, there's a myth that freedom means free expression - that to follow all desires wherever they take one is true freedom.  In fact, as one observes the mind, one sees that following desires, attractions, repulsions is not at all freedom, but is a kind of bondage.  A mind filled with desires and graspings inevitably entails great suffering.  Freedom is not to be gained through the ability to perform certain external actions.  True freedom is an inward state of being.  Once it is attained, no situation in the world can bind one or limit one's freedoms.'

(From Jack Kornfield's Living Dharma)

 

Have we in this country really come to think of freedom as an unfetterdness, an ability to do whatever we want, to say whatever we want, whenever we want?  If we look at it like that, we are always going to be bound.  Always.  True freedom for all will never happen.  There is always going to be someone, somewhere, who's freedom will be infringed upon by someone else's freedoms and who will object.  I know I've done it.  People have pissed me off with their words and I have wanted to shut them up, to not allow them to say what it was that upset me so.  More than that, we have become slaves to ourselves by subscribing to the 'bigger, better, faster, more' culture.  We have been conditioned, and have even conditioned ourselves, to want the newest and the biggest and the best.  As long as we have that desire to get get get, we will always be in bondage.

When will we ever be free?

I know I want to free myself. 

 


Comments
on Oct 17, 2004
we have become slaves to ourselves by subscribing to the 'bigger, better, faster, more' culture.


I am currently working on an article on that very subject.

I think personal freedom, as described in the text you quoted, and national freedom are basically two different things although tied together in some ways. National freedom involved ensuring every citizen the right to voice his or her opinion and to live their lives without undo interference from the government while at the same time protecting each citizen from harm. A delicate balace to be sure.

That said, I did not miss the point of your artcle at all, and it is a point well taken. Somemtimes we blur the lines beyween "needs" and "wants" and that's when we get into trouble.

Good article.
on Oct 17, 2004

National freedom involved ensuring every citizen the right to voice his or her opinion and to live their lives without undo interference from the government while at the same time protecting each citizen from harm

But we have taken that to the extreme.  We have taken 'freedom' and have twisted it...when we are denied the ability to do something that we want to do, despite the potential for harm to others, we say that we are being denied our 'freedom'. Freedom, and the comcept of freedom, has come to mean something that I'm sure the founding fathers never intended it to mean.

on Oct 17, 2004
BTW, good to see you, Mason!  Where are you now?  I'm near St Louis....
on Oct 17, 2004
I agree completely Dharma. Just passed through St Louis today as a matter of fact. I'm sitting in Wisconsin tonight.
on Oct 17, 2004

Just passed through St Louis today as a matter of fact

Were you on I-64?  I'm at Scott AFB, right off of 64 at Belleville, IL.  Man if I'd have known that I'd have arranged to meet you for coffee!  Let me know next time you're on your way through....

on Oct 18, 2004
Wow, very insightful quote. I am going to print this and read it to my teenage boy who thinks the world whould run his way.
on Oct 18, 2004

Wow, very insightful quote. I am going to print this and read it to my teenage boy who thinks the world whould run his way.

Thanks...I found it very powerful too.

I remember all too well how I felt about my 'freedom' was I was a teenager.  Good luck!

on Oct 18, 2004
This is a concept that has troubled me much lately dharma, and I appreciate reading your thoughts on the subject.

I worry that people believe that "freedom" not only means they are "free" to act, but also "free" from the consequences of their actions. And that is simply not possible. Sure, we have many freedoms here in the US. And I am very grateful for them. But I don't delude myself to think that I am free from the consequences of my actions.
on Oct 18, 2004

worry that people believe that "freedom" not only means they are "free" to act, but also "free" from the consequences of their actions.

I had thought about that too.  Being 'free' to do what you will is one thing, but people have to understand that there are consequences to that 'freedom'.  You don't get to walk away from those.

on Oct 18, 2004
You don't get to walk away from those.


Exactly. I know that will come as a terrifying shock to some people though.
on Oct 18, 2004
In those terms, there is no such thing as true freedom, because every action binds you inexorably to a chain of reactions. There is no action that you can take that does not cause something else to happen as a result. Then the only "true freedom" would be to sit absolutely still....
on Oct 18, 2004

Then the only "true freedom" would be to sit absolutely still....

Exactly.  Sit still, and be free.  Free of mind.