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I'm done fooling around.
Published on June 7, 2004 By dharmagrl In Misc

I'm tired of being yanked around by the military, so this morning I went to talk to the Chief Master Sergeant in what used to be Lonesome's squadron.  I really just wanted to see what his advice was, and if he could do anything to help.  Chief's are the highest enlisted rank...and the folks holding that rank didn't get there by sitting around with their thubs up their rear ends.  They also have a certain amount of influence and 'pull'. I aslo talked with the First Sergeant whilst I was hanging around up there waiting.

The general consenus is that Lonesome and I have been treated shabbily thus far, and that the time has come to start making some noise.  The advice was for Lonesome to contact his Chief up at Thule, and have him come out to bat for us.

So, that's what we're doing.  Last time I talked to Lonesome, less than an hour ago, he'd been on the phone with his Chief and was drafting a lengthy email detailing all the events that have taken place (or rather those that haven't taken place) since we found out we got denied overseas clearance, and those that led up to that happening.

You know, I don't like to bypass people like this....but if they're not doing their job and we're the ones that are getting screwed...well, I think that our reaching out and asking for help from someone with more power than us is totally justified.  We've done everything the military has asked us to do, and we've done it in a timely manner.  We don't know that the hold-up is, and no-one can give us a satisfactory explanation as to why things are not moving.  Perhaps an E-9 on the case will help the process run a little quicker and smoother.

There's a time and a place for everything, and this is the time and the place for us to ask for assistance from some 'Big Guns'.


Comments
on Jun 07, 2004
Yeah a Chief can get things done in a hurry if they put their mind to it. Good move IMO
on Jun 07, 2004

Thanks, Mason. 

I think that Lonseome's a little irritated that I went and asked for advice...but to be honest, I'm more than a little irritated that we're still waiting for orders.  We have 65 or so days until he's due to leave Thule, and we don't have an assignment yet.  We're in limbo, and no-one seems to have our issue at the top of their priority list.  I'm not asking for special treatment, I'm not asking for orders to a specific location..all I want is for the people handling the paperwork to have a fire lit under their ass and get us some damn orders so we can get the PCS process underway. 

on Jun 07, 2004

The thing is- this is your life.  If going for the big guns is what is needed, then that is what you have to do.

You signed on being a military wife- you didn't sign on to be treated like this.  65 days is not much time at all to prepare your family for whatever is ahead.  There is no reason for you to be in limbo like this.  And, like you said, if people were doing their jobs, you wouldn't have had to do that.

I hope that you get things sorted out soon.  I don't think I could handle being uprooted like that all the time.

on Jun 07, 2004
There's a time and a place for everything, and this is the time and the place for us to ask for assistance from some 'Big Guns'.


Good luck to the both of you....and I really hope this helps get things moving again. For what it's worth, I think this is the right decision. You can sit back and be patient for only so long, and then it's time to kick butt and take names! Make these people do their jobs, whether they like it or not---I wanna know if you're coming to Ohio, gosh darn it!!!
on Jun 07, 2004
Frankly, it sounds like pretty typical military SNAFU. If you're looking for efficiency in the military, well, ummmm, have a valium
on Jun 07, 2004
I hope this goes well for you; good luck with it. I think Lonesome is just loathe to rock the boat here, and feels like a little control has been taken away from him by you directly intervening. Having said that, he probably also feels a little guilty that you felt you needed to intervene, and a little ineffectual because what you did was so simple and seems to be on its way to working.
It seems the two of you have a very strong relationship, so this sort of thing isn't even a bump in the road for you. Higher powers willing, you'll get some news soon (it's too much, perhaps, to hope that it's good; I know from experience that No News is not Good News when dealing with military screwuppery).
on Jun 07, 2004
the military doesn't like it when you go over people's heads do they? It's like an affront to their officer status, and they get p'd off bigtime. But that's what had to be done. Good for you Dharm. I'm sure it took some considering and you didn't take the issue lightly. Am I right?
on Jun 07, 2004
I don't know that it's really a case of going over anyone's head, unless you're specifically referring to her husband. Like I said, I think there's more to it than that. I also hope that he's not "p'd off bigtime," either. Ego's just a little bruised, I suspect.
Man, I hope this works out for you.
on Jun 07, 2004

Lonesome's not really that p'd off.  I didn't do anything official, all I did was go ask for advice, and then I called him and said that the people here said you should go to your chief there, and go today. He did the rest...so it's not like I undermined him or anything. He had mentioned going to the Chief anyway...it just happened a little sooner is all. 

It was causing a lot of tension between us before; I was getting frustrated and didn't have anyone that understood the intricacies of the situation to vent to but him...this morning was very theraputic, and I feel much better just for going and venting.  Having an E-9 agree that you're getting crapped on is very vindicating.

Karma, you're right, this is our life.  It is a big deal.

Theresa...I want to know too!

Pseudo:  As far as the military goes, no news usually means that someone forgot about you and your issue.  It's really very comforting that you understand!  You were spot on about how Lonesome was feeling as well...at least, I think you were. He'll have to tell you himself if that's actually the case.

Miki..Yeah, it took a lot of considering.  We've never, in all his years in the military, had to ask for help like this before.  We've always worked our own issues....this is something totally new for us and it didn't come easy.

on Jun 08, 2004
First to all: Thank you for your concerns, sincerely.

Pseudosoldier: very well put. Thank you.
on Jun 08, 2004
I'm glad I was at least close in my unsolicited online psychoanalysis of a person I've never met.
I wish you the best of luck in this situation. (I really need to blog up *my* current sit at some point.)
on Jun 08, 2004

Yeah, Pseudo, you do. I'm interested...

Honey, you know that I was just trying to do what I thought to be in our best interests. I had to do something...you know the rest.