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Published on May 12, 2004 By dharmagrl In Misc

Lynndie England is denying culpability in the Abu Ghraib POW abuse scandal.

"I was told to stand there, point thumbs up, look at the camera, take the picture" she said.

Of course she was. Of course she was only following orders. Lynndie is participating in the grand tradition of passing the buck, blaming others for our actions and misdeeds.

It seems that we have created quite an epedemic of this behaviour . From Presidents to paupers, Kings to commoners, we’re all doing it. We begin at an early age. My own children regularly try and place the blame on their siblings when they are caught in a wrongdoing. "He/she made me do it." I feel it my responsibility, as a parent, to encourage them to accept responsibility for their own actions, to be held accountable for what they did wrong.

However, that’s getting harder and harder to do. Every day we hear, see and read about people passing the buck and getting away with it. Al Quaeda blame Nick Berg’s execution on America....'if you had given us our prisoners we wouldn't have had to do it. You forced us, you made us do this. It's your fault.' Child molesters, rapists, murderers, all placing the blame for their actions squarely at someone elses feet... 'It’s because I wasn’t hugged/loved/treated well as a child. It's because my parents did the same thing to me. It's not my fault, it's the way I was raised.'  Old ladies who spill hot coffee and burn themselves file suit against the company who brewed and sold the beverage...'Well, if they didn't make it so damn hot it wouldn't have happened'.  The former governor of the state I live in, Bill Janklow, a once-staunch advocate of personal accountability tried to excuse his blatant disregard for the rules of the road which resulted in the death of a motorcyclist on his diabetes.....and so on and so on, ad infinitum.

How are we, as parents, supposed to teach our children to be responsible for their actions when they’re constantly bombarded with examples of people, not only ordinary people but people in positions of power and authority, NOT taking responsibility for theirs? Shouldn’t we be able to throw our hands up and say "It’s not my fault my kids don't have a sense of accountability. It's the media’s fault, the President’s fault, society’s fault’.

No, we shouldn't. I believe the only way we’re going to be able to break this cycle of blame is to start practicing what we preach and start holding ourselves accountable.

Change has to start somewhere. Where better a place to start than with me?


Comments
on May 12, 2004

Personal responsibility is what so many people lack.  It's societies fault that there are so many homeless.  It's McDonald's fault that so many people are fat.  It's the school's fault that a child didn't study. 

If people would have to take personal responsibility, so many things would be different.  But, it's just too easy to blame somebody else....and for some reason, people accept these excuses for people's behaviors.

on May 12, 2004

for some reason, people accept these excuses for people's behaviors.

That's a good point.  Why is that?  Why do we let people get away with blaming everyone else but themselves?

on May 12, 2004
We do not live in a vacum. An individual is actually responsible for so very little. We have so little room for movement as individuals.

In isolation, events or occurences can be blamed soely on the individual. Within a group context it becomes harder to distinguish between individual responsibility and group/social/corporate responsibility.

It would be naive to believe that the death of Nick Berg or the actions Lynndie England could be blamed on american actions or Iraqi malevolence and personal cruelty or group retribution (respectively) exclusively (not sure if that made sense).

It would be a shame to teach our children that they are to blame or credit themselves with all the events that occur within their personal sphere (one could lead to problems of self-esteem and perceptions of self-worth and the other to problems of over inflated egos and, extremely, megalomania). It would impart to them a form of personal isolationism that would make it hard for them to operate as fruitful members of a community.

Sometimes it is necessary for us to communally accept responsibility for wrongs and communally accept credit for successes.

There are many things we can't blame individuals for - war, the degredation of the environment, poverty, mysogyny, sexism, racism, violence in the media, a money-centric approach to value, etc, etc.

The worst crimes are systemic abuses of the world we live in committed by collectives and organisations that disperse responsibility so that when things need to be called into account the system will not fall with the individual. The examples I gave above are conditions or actions that occur because of cultural and social norms manifesting themselves in and through the individual, or are states that exist because of the relationships that exist between individuals, cultures, societies, nations and organisations.

Personal agency is not enough to explain why things go drastically wrong. Especially when things go drasticaly wrong. In the case of the abuse of Iraqi prisoners, most of the uproar is due to the suspicion that this abuse was systematic, implying that the mistreatment was caused by an organisational deficiency and predisposition.

I do agree with you when it comes to many instances when it's the individual standing there in an empty room with their hand in the cookie jar and milk spilled on the floor saying "but it wasn't me"

This position is in no way complete as it stands here. It would require many book length treaties (and books have already been written) to fully articulate this position, but i feel long winded enough as it is.

I must say that I have loved reading just about everything you've written Dharmagrl. Including this, even if I don't agree 100%
on May 12, 2004

It would be a shame to teach our children that they are to blame or credit themselves with all the events that occur within their personal sphere (one could lead to problems of self-esteem and perceptions of self-worth and the other to problems of over inflated egos and, extremely, megalomania). It would impart to them a form of personal isolationism that would make it hard for them to operate as fruitful members of a community.


I'm not saying that everything comes down to personal accountability. Some things happen that I have no control over.  What I am saying is that I should set an example for my children and acknowledge responsibility for my actions. For example, if I lose my temper and strike my neighbor, I should accept responsibility for my actions and admit that I lost my temper and hit her...not say "She pissed me off, so it's her fault.  If she hadn't pissed me off it never would have happened". 


I also believe it's not neccessarily what happens to you, it's how you react to it that matters...but that's a whole other blog.


Thanks for the compliment, and I'm glad you don't agree 100% - I'm also very glad you are eloquent enough to explain why!


 

on May 12, 2004

We don't live in a vacuum, but that doesn't make it right that so many people get away with blaming somebody else for their actions.  The US is totally sue happy because people can take personal accountability.  "Society" can not be blamed for all the rapists, murderers and robbers of the world.  People have this amazing ability to learn and to have a conscience.  It has become all too easy to take the political correct stance of allowing people to blame their actions on some outside force.

People tried to form a class action lawsuit against McDonalds, so a law had to be passed that indemnified fast food joints.  How stupid is that? They had to take a step to protect fast food joints from being harmed by ridiculous lawsuits.   You could always get info on fast food contents, but people don't want to take responsibility for the fact that they eat too much.  Dying of lung cancer?  Sue the cigarette company because they sold you the cigarettes that are killing you.

on May 12, 2004
"How are we, as parents, supposed to teach our children to be responsible for their actions when they’re constantly bombarded with examples of people, not only ordinary people but people in positions of power and authority, NOT taking responsibility for theirs?"

Everytime one of my kids tries to pass the buck like that, I lead them down the path and show them how it was their responsibility for the bad grade or the trouble in class or whatever the crisis du jour is. I have to do this over and over and over and over.... Hopefully, eventually, they'll get it. That is all we as parents can do and then hope for the best.

I totally agree with your article though. It is one of the reasons I have such a hard time participating/being interested in anything political. Our politicians are supposed to be up there fighting the good fight on OUR behalf, but most of the time (most not all) they end up paying more attention to the $$ folks that got them in office. When mistakes are made, it's always someone elses fault. Blah.
on May 12, 2004

I have to do this over and over and over and over....

Me too!  It seems some days that they will never learn.  It's a constant thing....like you said, perhaps one day they'll get it.

It really sickens me sometimes that people in authority won't take responsibility for their actions. It sickens me that we have created an uber litigious society for ourselves.  I remember reading a couple of years ago that Smith and Wesson, the firearm manufacturer was being sued by some street punk who had been shot with a .38 special.  Didn't matter that this punk was in the commission of a crime at the time and that the person who shot him was trying to defend themselves..all that was irrelevant.  He was going to get 'paid' for being shot.

Anyway, I'll step down off my soapbox now.

on May 12, 2004
I remember an oldie about a burglar who was coming out of a building he was robbing. A citizen pinned him to the building wall with his car and broke the bad guys leg or somehow hurt him. The bad guy sued in court and won.
on May 12, 2004
She may have been following orders from someone in her chain of command but what she did was still wrong IMHO. I think she should go to the brig. That being said she is a PFC and definately was not in the lead of this situation. Those who participated should answer for their actions but the higher ranks who ordered it, ignored it, photographed it or didn't know what was going on in their command need to be responsible for this situation too.
on May 12, 2004

She may have been following orders from someone in her chain of command but what she did was still wrong IMHO


Thank you, Locamama.  It's good to hear that from someone else involved in the military.

on May 12, 2004
playing the blame game seems to be a lot of people's favorite past time....

It doesn't get anyone anywhere at all... Ultimately, this trailer trash chick must be a fan of subordination, she knew what she was getting into when she joined the army...

This is not an inflamatory remark - however, standing from the outside looking in, the US has a strong culture of blame... all you have to do is look at the number of civil litigation cases for your answers... And I see it every day on these forums as well... all too much, and it makes me sick.

BAM!!!
on May 12, 2004

standing from the outside looking in, the US has a strong culture of blame

I can see that Muggaz.  Growing up in England we were under the impression that all Americans were taught from birth to say "I'll have fries with that" and "I'm going to sue you".

The buck has to stop somewhere. 

on May 12, 2004
all I can say is AMEN!!!!!!!
on May 12, 2004

all I can say is AMEN!!!!!!!

heh..thanks, Marc.