They will continue to use it as long as it works.  It is predictable.

i'm wonderin how much booze is in an underage page's cum...

i'm wonderin how much booze is in an underage page's cum...

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

Oh my.  I about peed my pants laughing at that.

They will continue to use it as long as it works. It is predictable.

But that's the thing.  If we see that it's predictable, then we KNOW that it's all flim-flam.  He doesn't really have a problem, he just fucked up and made a HUGE mistake.  To be honest, him going to rehab for his 'problem' is insulting not only to the general public but also to the people who REALLY do have addictions to alcohol and substances. 

It's not working any more.  We can see through the smoke screen they're putting up.  We can predict their next move.  It's time to get a new game plan.

What kills me is they act like we're supposed to be impressed. Somehow we're all supposed to saw "well at least he's getting help, good for him". It makes me puke.

It's not working any more. We can see through the smoke screen they're putting up. We can predict their next move. It's time to get a new game plan.

We as defined by the ones that are in the know? Or we as defined by all Americans? I would disagree with the latter. Too many just dont pay attention to it, so it does work.

What kills me is they act like we're supposed to be impressed. Somehow we're all supposed to saw "well at least he's getting help, good for him". It makes me puke.

Me too. 

We as defined by the ones that are in the know? Or we as defined by all Americans? I would disagree with the latter.

I will concede that there is a certain percentage of the population who aren't up to date with the goings on in Washington, but anyone who's seen the news has to be aware of what's going on, even if it's only at headline level.  If I recall correctly there's another politician who went to rehab a few months ago - and he went about 48-72 hours after the incident of his indiscretion.  People see a pattern forming.  That's not good.

what is even worse is that some are turning this into a partisan issue...maybe some crimes were committed and a possible cover-upikjjrfd...there is an investigation and we will learn of that someday in the future. that isn't important. i hear others bringing up analogies about democrats. again, that's not important now. what is important is protecting our children from predators, wherever they are.

And if I, a lowly military spouse, can predict accurately what the Washington publicity crowd can do

You are more than a lowly military spouse!

You are more than a lowly military spouse!

Meh.....maybe.  I'm certainly not a publicity consultant - I wish that I were!  What I meant when I said that was that I'm not really into politics, but I can see what's going to happen every time some politician screws up - so if I, a non-politically inclined ordinary chickie can see the game that's being run, there must be other people able to see it too!

i hear others bringing up analogies about democrats. again, that's not important now.

I agree, and I find the constant need to bring up partisan issues tiresome.  The republican crowd looks down it's nose at the jokes the democrat crowd make about republicans (most notably, the president), yet here they are doing the very thing they condemn others for.  It's more than slightly hypocritical - and I say that as neither republican nor democrat, but as a middle of the road fence sitter.

The problem is one I point out quite often. The American people just don't really care anymore (Maybe never really did). This is suppose to be a Govt "By the people, for the people", but instead it's a Gov't where people go to vote just to spite the opposing party and then they just go back to their recliners and Directv and forget there is a President doing what he wants till something bad happens on CNN or Fox, yet they still will not do research, just go with what the media tells them. Google is so easy, it's sad there are still people who know nothing with internet at their finger tips (those who have internet I mean). Ignorance in this country is more of a problem than Aids is. I believe more people are dying due to ignorance than Aids. I could be wrong though, I have no real data to back up this opinion. But it does sound logical, to me anyways.

I've always believed that schools should have some kind of class that teaches students what the Gov't is about, how it functions and about politics, so that one day when it's their turn to vote, they have a better understanding of how and why they vote for who they chose. This should start from High school on. But that's just me.

I've always believed that schools should have some kind of class that teaches students what the Gov't is about, how it functions and about politics, so that one day when it's their turn to vote, they have a better understanding of how and why they vote for who they chose. This should start from High school on. But that's just me.

schools used to have "civics" class and sim. under different titles. i guess they were some of the 1st to go when cutting budgets. ya know, it's much more important for the football team to have a new stadium, gym, uniforms and the costs of bringing in that "ringer" coach (or player) so we can win more games (even tho winning more games doesn't increase revenue).

I've always believed that schools should have some kind of class that teaches students what the Gov't is about, how it functions and about politics, so that one day when it's their turn to vote, they have a better understanding of how and why they vote for who they chose. This should start from High school on. But that's just me. schools used to have "civics" class and sim. under different titles. i guess they were some of the 1st to go when cutting budgets. ya know, it's much more important for the football team to have a new stadium, gym, uniforms and the costs of bringing in that "ringer" coach (or player) so we can win more games (even tho winning more games doesn't increase revenue).

In California they have a semester Gov't class which is required for high school. For the other semester students have to take Econ. I don't think either class really gets into detail. Requirement classes can't really offer much info because everyone has to pass.

It is funny how entering rehab has become the donation to charity of the 21st century. I wonder what we're going to get next decade? Joining the scientologists and becoming an acolyte of the Miracle Baby?

Heh, as far as boinking young interns goes, remember, these are young adults, not children. Monica Lewinski was only 19 when Clinton was playing cigar games with her in the Oval office.

and in this country, i believe legally, but at least ethicly and morally in many people's mind, there is a BIG difference between 16 and 19. the lewinski affair is irrelevant here. the details are much different. interns are college age and legal adults. pages are high school kids and usually aren't. in fact, i seem to remember that in 83 when the democrats had their lil sex scandal involving pages, at the time, pages were 17 , not 16 and they changed it to 16 to avoid any "confusion" over whether it was ok or not. this affected me personally because i was going to be a page when i was 17, i was 16 when the age was 17, then they changed it and i turned 17 and it made me ineligable. so i then went and worked on a GOP campaign. it was supposed to be a volunteer effort, but mysteriously enough, i got a check for my college fund on a regular basis. i don't mind mentioning that now as i am sure that crime is well beyond any statutes of limitations and the rep. in question has passed away.

the most disturbing thing about all of this is that Foley was the guy in charge of protecting children from pedophiles. it was literally the fox watching the henhouse. that's not a partisan thing, or an election thing,,,that's a principle thing. if reports that hastert and other GOP leaders knew of this a long time ago as roberts and others contend, i don't know if i'd call for hastert's resignation, but i would call for him to give up his leadership post. again, not for politics sake, but for principle's sake.

Heh, as far as boinking young interns goes, remember, these are young adults, not children. Monica Lewinski was only 19 when Clinton was playing cigar games with her in the Oval office.

Yeah but the boys Foley was sending predatory sexual emails and text messages to were pages - high school kids - under 18.

But herein lies the problem, Senator Foley is not "the republican party" but only a single member of it. Both parties have their freaks, pervs, and deviants, as would any other large group of professionals, like your local police department or library clerk's association.

Yeah but the difference is that the Republican leadership knew about this guy and did nothing. Hastert, speaker of the House, knew about the emails a year ago and only reported it to the head of the page program. No other action was taken and that is how this becomes a condemnation of not one individual Republican but the Republican leadership.

They said they were warning pages about this guy five years ago and somehow he ends up chair of the committee on exploitation of children?

Also in another aside - Monica Lewinsky was not some innocent who was preyed upon. She was the aggressor flashing her thong panties at the President. That's not very subtle.