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Published on April 4, 2004 By dharmagrl In Philosophy
I've been talking about food a lot recently, and it's made me think about what I eat...if I can reconcile what I eat with my Buddhist path. I've always held the philosophy that if I'm not having something killed specifically for ME then that's ok. Buddhist monks eat whatever is given to them, they have the thought that beggars can't be choosers (and I agree).

For a while a couple of years ago I tried to be vegan. I ate no meat, no dairy products, and no eggs. I cooked using tempeh and tofu, and pruchased a lot of those 'Garden Burger' vegetarian alternatives...the stuff that's shaped like and flavored like meat products but is actually soy.

I thought I was doing well, until I stopped in the middle of a soy burger one day and thought about how futile and silly what I was doing was. I was eating something that tasted like meat, was designed and manufactured to resemble meat - so why shouldn't I just eat the goddam meat?! I was denying myself meat...for what reason? Because I didn't agree with the way animals were slaughtered and their bodies processed? No. Because I didn't like the way their flesh tasted? No. Because I thought that this was what good Buddhists were supposed to do? Yes, that was exactly it.

I was not eating meat for the entirely wrong reasons. So I stopped denying myself. I didn't go out and have a flesh-fest, I just started eating what I was cooking for the rest of my family again. I still eat meat, but I've changed the way I look at food: I try to be aware of it. I think about where what I'm eating came from, about what kind of effort went into making what I see before me on my plate..how many people's welfare is dependent on their job in the manufacturing process of the food I'm eating...it gives me a better sense of the interconectedness of everything, of us all. It makes me more mindful of myself, other people, and my environment. In a secular world, where we usually think of ourselves first and foremost, this thought process helps me be more altruistic in other areas.

I'll leave you with a quote about Buddhism and food:

' Adolf Hitler was a vegetarian; The Dalai Lama, the embodiment of compassion, eats meat by his doctor's orders. Clearly, there's more to mind than what is put into the mouth: yet, as long as food remains a fundamental part of life, these choices are a proper focus of spiritual awareness. Every bite of macaroni contains choices about culture, history, meaning - even the 'Nutrition Facts' listed on every US noodle box have resonances for us that spread as far as aceticisim, sin, compassion, the place of science in our beliefs, and the importance of supporting one's own well-being along with that of others.
So, what should a Buddhist eat?'


Comments
on Apr 04, 2004
Some good thoughts there. Something similar to that: I heard an activist once preaching for vegetarianism by saying that processing meat requires dozens of gallons of water per pound of meat. It struck me that although every human is directly responsible for consuming billions of gallons of water over the course of their life, no activist is out there protesting humans, or even handing out "condoms for the whales."

Just a thought. Good post.

~Dan
on Apr 04, 2004
Thanks, Dan.

Good point too...
on Apr 04, 2004
I think you miss the point Dan, though not greivously. The fact that it requires so many resources to 'produce' meat should occur to you as a misappropriation of those resources. If Americans reduced their meat intake by ten per cent the spared grain would be enough to feed the starving populations of the Earth. That is a fact that keeps me a vegetarian. I am only not a vegan because of my lack of will and the simple addictive nature of milk and cheese. Plus it is very expensive to sustain a pleasant vegan diet. The 'manufacture' of meat is a gross ineficiency and furthermore it is socialized cruelty.

Dharmagrl, it is very good that you are mindful of the consequences even though you eat meat. That cannot be said of most people. Of course that is because it is kept out of the public's mind. Meat is just another product to them. They do not see the live's being shredded and brutalized. McDonald's does not advertise this fact. I do not judge others for eating meat because I know this is the way things are, but I would change it if I could. The meat industry is a monstrosity.

You are right that vegetarianism is hardly a necessary facet of Dharma practice, but I will remind you that being a butcher is one of the specific occupations that the Buddha taught was incompatible with walking the path.
on Apr 04, 2004
Everett- get a hint. There's plenty of food to "feed the starving populations of the Earth." All you need to do is find somebody willing to transport it to the people who need it. It's not scarcity, it's just there's no profit in feeding those people.

~Dan

btw 10% is a ton of meat.
on Apr 04, 2004
You are right that vegetarianism is hardly a necessary facet of Dharma practice, but I will remind you that being a butcher is one of the specific occupations that the Buddha taught was incompatible with walking the path.

You're correct, of course. That's why I don't ask that anything be killed specifically for me, nor do I kill anything. I suppose I'm much like a Buddhist monk, an opportunist ,when it comes to eating meat. I don't have to have it, and I don't center every meal I prepare around it. Modern man has somehow managed to convince himself that he needs way more meat and protein than is healthy for him.

Dan, I'd like to recommend a book for you: The Perfectly Contented Meat Eater's Guide To Vegetarianism. If you're interested but can't get a copy, email me and I'll mail you mine. It was just going to get sold on eBay anyway...

on Apr 04, 2004
I couldn't be a butcher anyway.

I'll look up that book.

~Dan
on Apr 04, 2004
Neither could I, Dan.

Let me know if you find it and what you think.
on Apr 04, 2004
I couldn't find it locally, or I'd get it. Sorry.

~Dan
on Apr 04, 2004
Want mine? (no charge, and I'll pay for the shipping. I need to downsize on the amount of literature I have; I can't take it all w to England)
on Apr 05, 2004
All this food talk is making me soooo hungry...

I had a brief stint as a vegetarian (mostly cause I was too lazy to cook anything, so I just ate salads), but I just love meat way too much to give it up for more than a week or two.
on Apr 06, 2004
Hey Dan, I didn't know you were from Traverse! I grew up in Boyne City. Do you know where that is? Traverse is huge compared to Boyne but Boyne gets a lot of attention from skiers. Glad to know there is another fellow Michigander on JU.